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  • GCVivek
    03-25 07:20 PM
    Based on Visa Bulletin report, it seems like massive retrogression is likely for EB3 as well as EB2 :( for the rest of the year. Many have ported and some hibernating applications are now active. :(




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  • krishmunn
    05-21 09:56 AM
    Sorry I will be out of country on those dates but here is my support for this --

    $100

    Receipt ID: 0024-6091-9262-6521




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  • logiclife
    09-25 12:04 PM
    Your rights as a participant of a bulletin board or online forum like Immigration Voice forums:



    The rights of bloggers (site admin, site owner or site moderators), their liability and section 230. Section 230 refers to Section 230 of Title 47 of the United States Code (47 USC � 230) (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/230.html). To learn the plain English language explanation of this section, go here: http://www.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-230.php (http://www.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-230.php)

    What this means is that whenever someone posts anything against anyone, Immigration Voice is immune from libel suits or defamation lawsuits, with couple of exceptions (discussed in item 2). Therefore, any anonymous poster saying bad things about their lawyers, employers, or anyone else DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DELETED.

    Immigration Voice is not going to delete, edit or moderate the posts and threads posted by our members no matter how defamatory or criticizing they are. That�s because A) Immigration Voice is not liable for what our members do or not do per section 230 and B) Immigration Voice needs to give freedom to members to vent out against the incompetent immigration lawyers and/or dishonest employers because that is what makes us unique and different from censored forums and it is the ESSENCE of this bulletin board.

    Other than couple of exceptional scenarios (see point # 2), we are not liable for content posted by users of message boards, forums, discussion boards etc. Section 230 protects Immigration Voice website administrator and moderator against libel suits or other lawsuits caused by participants who post messages against their lawyers, employers or anyone else. A recent example of such a case is illustrated in 22 page opinion of a federal judge in DiMeo V Max (http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1149152717145).



    The exceptions when Section 230 protections won�t work.Section 230 will not protect Immigration Voice if site moderators and administrators themselves post content that causes damages to others. We (site admin and moderators) will not edit or delete posts that say bad things about other orgs or persons - no matter how derogatory or defamatory they are against some lawyers, employers etc. We are not liable or responsible for them and legally it�s best and safest for moderators/site admins to leave those posts alone. Besides, that is one reason why people come to this site � freedom to vent out without any censorship, sometimes even against the Immigration Voice leadership and core group.

    The other scenario when the section 230 wont protects us is in case of intellectual property. So don�t post any patented information or technology details on this website. However the laws give us a lot of latitude when we post some news articles or other content created by other sources. More details of intellectual property are here on this link. http://www.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-ip.php (http://www.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-ip.php).



    Are we obligated to provide information to plaintiffs about our anonymous posters?First of all, most of the time, we ourselves don�t know the anonymous posters and who they are. The most we can do is provide IP address. Those IP addresses too are not easy to pin down in certain kinds of network environments. However, we will not give any information about our members to anyone unless and until we are subpoenaed for it. Subpoenas are either issued by law enforcement or by plaintiffs who file the lawsuit. Unless we are subpoenaed, we don�t have to give away any information like IP or email of any anonymous poster. Immigration Voice will never make the IP address or any information available to anyone unless it is ordered by court. Immigration Voice will use all possible legal avenues to protect the privacy and anonymity of its members and online discussion participants.


    What if someone with deep pockets sues Immigration Voice with the objective of shutting us down, even though they know they don�t have a case, but want to sue us just to drag us into expensive court battle and make us bankrupt?There is nothing that protects Immigration Voice (or any such website with discussion boards and forums) from frivolous lawsuits. Anyone can sue anyone else, whether he or she lose or win is a different matter. Section 230 protects immigration voice from libel lawsuits resulting from anonymous participants posting messages that cause damages to organizations or individuals. They are even more counterproductive for the plaintiff if that state has ANTI-SLAAP laws.

    SLAAP means �Strategic lawsuit against active participation�. If someone sues us just to make us bankrupt and shut us down without caring for outcome of the case, then it�s a SLAAP lawsuit. The objective is such lawsuit is not to win but to drag the other party into expensive court battle and make them bankrupt. Some states have laws against SLAAP lawsuits called ANTI-SLAAP laws. They are different in every state. What those laws do in general is make the plaintiff of SLAAP lawsuit pay the defendant for the cost of litigation and defense if they lose. So if someone from state that has ANTI-SLAAP laws sues us, then the money we spend on litigation would have to be paid by plaintiffs if they lose. Therefore there is good chance of finding a pro-bono lawyer because if they win, they get paid from the other party. What this means is that it�s difficult to drive someone to bankruptcy with frivolous lawsuits if the state has good ANTI-SLAAP laws. California is one example. Therefore the chances of us getting sued by someone in CA are lesser than other states.

    Should any party sue Immigration Voice for libel based on posted messages on online forums, Immigration Voice will fight back to the fullest extent and will not remove posts or threads against those organizations.


    What should one do if they have been badly hurt due to incompetence or malfeasance on the part of employer or lawyers?Immigration Voice will neither encourage nor discourage members to post messages against their employers or lawyers or any other party. Members and participants are free to post whatever they want to post. If you lawyer�s actions have hurt you and if you think it�s due to malpractice then you can file a complaint against that lawyer in a state bar. If your employer�s action has hurt you and if you think his actions are illegal, then you can file a complaint against your employer at the department of labor (for wages issues) or other departments for other issues.




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  • cygent
    07-18 08:29 PM
    On the same evening.....Seeta and Geeta are shopping for tamarind in a nearby aisle....for some reason (I cant be more vivid than this) they notice eachothers tatto's; one has EB3 and one has EB2..........CATFIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/I]

    In this case the Eb3-I tattoo is more like a tramp stamp :D based on what is happening to these folks now. I know, I am one of them :rolleyes:.



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  • srkamath
    07-15 02:29 PM
    exactly same thing with me...

    It depends on the occupation, obviously for a welder or cook level II will be pretty low. For say a mechanical or electrical engineer or physicist - entry-level position requiring a MS degree the max level will be level II.
    For positions requiring PhD or MS+experience it will be Level III or IV.

    In conclusion, an applicant for such a position can be classified as EB2 even if wage is at Level II.
    Level I can never be EB2.

    To get the most accurate information, pls filter only Level I and occupations like cooks, welders, technicians. USCIS has been reluctant to approve EB2 for "computer programmers", they have approved EB2 for other advanced computer-related professions




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  • kshitijnt
    04-17 01:08 AM
    Guys I need to tell you my story:

    Last year HP acquired my company called Knightsbridge. Fragomen is HPs law firm. Everything was going well until we had this monster called fragomen deal with us. My I-140 was approved way back in 2006 and was waiting for a Jun-2005 PD to be current. In July 07, when VB was released, Fragomen suddenly found a problem with labor certifications of around 100 people. They had access to labors from Dec-06. Only they know what they were doing between Dec-06 and Jul-07. In june 07, the PD had moved a bit forward to 2004. That time Fragomen contacted a few employees to file 485. As soon as Julu-07 bulletin came out they suddenly changed their tune. The word "travel required for job" was missing from the labor. Fragomen advised HP not to go ahead with 485. All our arguments were falling on deaf ears. All independent attorney opinions were disregarded and HP decided to take fragomens advise and not to file 485 but to restart labor.

    After my new labor got approved, I asked fragomen to apply for consular processing in my case. They tried to escalate it to various levels in HP and pressurise me to file I485. Finally I told my boss, I want consular and also picked up a fight with HP employee not to interfere in my GC process. Because this employee always sings the tune of fragomen. After this, they have not shown any interest in filing my I-140.

    After restarting labor Fragomens service is generally upto the mark, however; they are rude and uncompromising, in that they will not share a copy of labor certification or I-140 with employee. To some of my coworkers they will not even bother to respond to him for his 7th year H1 extension despite numerious queries. One of my friends also got better than expected service in that they filed his 485 just 2 days before his PD was moving from current to retrogressed. That is the only one case I have seen with positive outcome in my company. Some employees from my company suddenly went into silent mode after July-07. I suspect, they were given under the table deals to go ahead with old labor. However I can not prove that.

    After seeing all this behaviour, I have come to conclusion that Fragomen will give you good service if they see good potential revenue from you in future. Like EADs , APs etc, multiple H1 extensions etc. I think they are very money minded company and feel that they proactively advise employers to go slow on immigration and they also advise employers on how slow immigration could benefit the employer in the long run. They are completely unethical in my personal opinion. When they were describing the situation to our managers in Jul07, they were very insensitive and were showing as if nothing else had happened.
    No one was held responsible for this fiasco and all good hard working people were left to suffer. Due to this I have come to despise fragomen and I also despise some big employers who use them. Here is the list:

    HP, Cisco, TCS, Deloitte, IBM, ...... add yours to the list.



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  • Leo07
    03-28 03:43 PM
    bade mia, tere bataan sunke bohut kush hua main. Pottey yahan key alag hain. questionnah poocho nakko boletho suntha nahin kya? subah ka nashta katham nahin hua, spilloveraah key baarein mei baata karraa?
    3 mahiney key baad milna, spillover key baarey mein baata karne ka ha tho.
    baba re baba ye hp laptop kya hai re ....
    mai spillwer ke bare mai poochta tum kaiku hp laptop ke bareme baatien karta
    mai mian dost boola jaoo iv ko jaake dekho waha kya katre hai to vohich me karta ab main yeha ayike pareshaan ho gaya baba. kya baata karte yaha pe
    ab mian sidha jawab ka sidha sawal koi deta ki nahi yahach pe.




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  • tomprc
    07-09 03:34 PM
    there are reports that some people get their july applications returned already. see here:

    http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=7474050822&m=5631015251



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  • PlainSpeak
    03-28 07:47 PM
    Please Donate to IV Advocacy or participate in the Advocacy in person. This is for your own benefit and you are working for your own green card

    :D:D:D




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  • chantu
    06-28 06:08 PM
    For I-485 pending you must give A#.

    But I am going to write in Q.15..current immi status as H1-B for me and AOS for my wife. I can understand writing A# for my wife. But for me also is it A# or it should be I94#?



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  • WaitingForMyGC
    03-05 11:01 AM
    This is what Ron Gotcher had to say about this wonderful organization:

    Quote" Not even Congress has been able to rein in the INS/CIS. Repeatedly, they have passed legislation ordering the agency to produce reports on their backlogs - all of which have been ignored with impunity."

    So, I think this is just another tactic to discourage people from getting the information thru FIA by charging some imaginary figure of $5k to get some basic information. This is the heights of Arrogance.

    INS/CIS has become a rogue entity like Pakistan's ISI. No govt can rein it. :-)

    I don't see any harm in coughing up 5k for the information which would help us all.
    Count me in for the contribution.




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  • sanju
    09-12 03:01 PM
    Agree 100%. Just to add under the section 'if McSame wins' -

    Sen. McCain, a "Maverick" whatever that means, is a close friend to Sen. Lindsey Graham of SC. During the 2007 CIR debate, in the context of skilled immigration, Sen. Lindsey Graham commented - we do not want anymore Indian PHDs coming into US. Sen. Graham was talking about high-skilled immigration in general. Though Mccain supposedly makes his own decisions, the future looks bleak with either candidates.

    I think many people on this and other forums would love to see President Obama due to opposition to war and slogan of change, to some extent - myself included. But most of us do not fully know the after-effects on this community. Get ready to feel the wrath of Sen. Durbin. It will get real nasty.




    if Obama wins:
    + its better for the world in general. The last thing we want is more of GWB policies destroying both America's economy, civil rights, and respect in the world.
    - his best friend Durbin will again pick up the stick and start beating up on H1 sponsoring. EB will also get run over by the same bus.
    - FB immigration will be put in preference over EB, we are screwed.

    if McSame wins:
    + my taxes remain low
    - CIR is back. 13 millions illegals will get in line. points based system for EB immigration and we are all screwed again.
    - if McCain does not live through his presidency, the biggest country and economy in the world, with the largest number of nuclear weapons, the largest amount of military spending... the rome of our time, with nearly unlimited power and presence around teh world, will be run by a mayor of a small town. Rember her trying to get her brother-in-law police officer fired during her sisters divorce? And when the administrator refused her requests, he fired him? Remember how she emails people off-the-record from her Yahoo account? Remember how she CC's her husband on official emails? Do you want someone that stupid, who already abused whatever little powers a mayor and governor has, to be the commander-in-chief of the united states armed forces?

    Either way immigration-wise we are screwed. I think for the sake of the rest of the world we must wish that this time McCain loses this election. He has made a very stupid VP choice.



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  • gjoe
    12-10 05:30 PM
    It is good to know that state chapters are semi internet. I beg to differ with you regarding "feeling that you are in trouble". Expecting people to feel that they are in trouble by telling them so will never work. If someone thinks they are in trouble they would work out the solution on their own, they will not sit and wait for someone to help. This is a flawed assumption.

    Anyways I am going to join the IV chapter to share more of my ideas to help this cause. Already sent a PM to chanduv23

    State boards are kind of semi internet usgae only (Though not forum...). But those also do not make passive ones come ahead. So real issue is not the type of meet, the first real issue is feeling that you are in trouble..and 2nd is to stand up for fighting against that. And 3rd.. yes through IV we will be able to do this and so become active.




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  • pappu
    06-30 12:06 PM
    What does the introduction of SKIL bill in House mean to us? i.e. what are the likely scenarios from here on? Thanks in advance.

    It seems tough to have this being passed unless CIR dies. Only 10 weeks are left for any bill to be debated and passed by both houses. In my opinion it is very difficult. I would personally wait to hear opinion about this bill by legal experts and media. It is too early to speculate on its failure or success.

    btw. If Uma Thurman endorses this Skil Bill it will definitely get passed!!



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  • Michael chertoff
    03-27 05:46 PM
    Dear All,

    All the infigting and ranting we do, only creates a lot of negative energy and negative vibrations. People will continue to do what is right for them and normally try to be in the right side of the law. There is no point discussing about this.

    Let us all be clear that within the next year, despite the spillover, both EB2 and EB3 will get absolutley clogged - I expect EB2 and EB3 nos to become more or less equal and clogged. This situation is not going to benefit anyone.

    The only possible thing is to try sincerely for some legislative relief, unitedly. Everyone knows that it is like moving a mountain. I spoke to many friends about IV efforts and tried my best sincerely to raise money for advocacy. It was a futile exercise. I felt so sad to realize that everyone I spoke to, was cynical and said that nothing would work out in our favour. Under such circumstances, it is essential that the very few who are committed to work stay united and sincerely try! For most of us with grown up children, this is the only way! Like it or not!

    Why cannot all of us atleast make a small contribution for the advocacy? What is the problem?

    Again, as a person who is seriously stuck in this mess with children on the verge of completing high school, I have very little options left. Most of the good colleges are NOT willing to consider "aliens" like us eligible for instate (local) tuition. Did anyone think of this? All of us will have to pay international fees! Who can pay $ 50000 per annum? Under the circumstances, please note that many of us will have to return to India or atleast move our families! I wrote a letter to my Senator about this and I got a response saying that he cannot do anything about it. Please think about all the consequences before wasting time on endless EB2 - EB3 fights!

    I also want to repeat what I had said a few months back. No immigration system that is not time bound is fair or transparent. With all the sincerity at my command (I have nothing to gain in the process) I would request youngsters in their early and mid 30s to seriously consider options in other "First World" countries which have time bound immigration programmes for highly qualified immigrants. It is an endless wait here.Do you want to spend the next 10+ staring at the visa bulletin very month? . I do not want my junior countrymen to commit the mistake of sinking in this quagmire. With due respect to all the hard work of gurus like Teddy and others, I still feel that it would take about 12 - 15 years for anyone of us waiting beyond Jan 2007 (though I do not wish for it). What would be the state of the economy then? Any thoughts?

    High time we stay focused and use this forum in a positive way!

    May the SUPREME POWER bless the Indian EB community!

    What is the guarantee that spillover will happen. I agree with your post. we all are stuck in this mess. sometimes i feel that , Coming to USA was a bad decision for me.. now its too late after spending 10+ years here.

    MC




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  • sirinme
    01-22 05:21 PM
    Hi, I have a question about which service center to use when e-filing for AP renewal. Here is my situation:

    - I live in California, but my I-485 has been rotting in Texas Service Center.
    - When e-filing, one of the questions on the USCIS website was which service center my I-485 application has been pending at. I answered it as Texas Service Center, and went through with rest of the e-filing process.
    - After submitting the form, I got the receipt number that starts with "SRC", which I am assuming ties my application with Texas Service Center. The cover letter of the PDF (which was generated right after submission) even said to mail supporting documentation to TSC.

    Now, the problem is, I was reading through the instructions for I-131 filing and the PDF (I-131instr.pdf, which I downloaded from USCIS website) says on Page 7 that I should file my AP renewal with Nebraska Service Center, because I am a California resident.

    Given that I already filed my AP renewal with Texas Service Center, am I in trouble here? I don't remember the USCIS website asking me or prompting me to file the renewal application with Nebraska Service Center, so I am a bit baffled by how I ended up in this situation. Is there anything I could do to correct it now? Has anyone run into this situation before?

    Thanks!



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  • psaxena
    06-01 04:52 PM
    Seems to me , either you are paid by AF to defend them here or you are one of those who like pizza than roti. The moment these things happen to you , you will be shouting on top of your lungs but when it happens with your fellow countrymen you can't empathize.. are you so insensitive or just like to be French.

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    I find your quote to be insulting to a large group of persons, some of whom could be potential members of IV. If anyone had made such a comment about Telgu-speakers or Punjabi-speakers, there would be outrage.

    Last I checked, this was not supposed to be desi-centric forum.




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  • neoneo
    07-02 09:20 PM
    Letter from John Shadegg urging others to join in the support of the "SKIL" Bill.

    http://www.house.gov/pence/rsc/doc/CA_070306_shadeggSKIL.pdf

    Guess, using this, one can send a webfax to other house members urging them to support this bill.




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  • anilsal
    11-09 12:41 AM
    There has been a change. It is starting in January.

    We have a lame-duck season to get across. If CIR/SKILL bill is going to take time after Jan, let us get the smaller items in, until then.




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    Hinglish
    03-21 03:51 PM
    It is just the way u wrote....put a poll and most of us will agree on that...
    I have been very clear on my statements..
    As if I really care about your thoughts, feelings ...



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